my group i like to vote for
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Lets gooo Picardy Protocol
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Just make sure to read enough different topics. Spend some time on the posts outside of the hackathon also. There is also a list of different badges you can earn.
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Here to support all the new projects who doesnât have a shilling telegram / discord communities already. Also found some gem projects that have nothing to do with cryptocurrency/NFTs or greed. True gem projects hidden under shilled projects.
Would recommend staying away from projects that have huge salaried teams that voted for themselves and are in the top rankings. Such projects have submitted same projects across multiple categories and trying to create fake buzz shilling their same project as different posts with different titles.
Some projects have literally brand new voters with negligible reading time. What is the value of such fake votes by voters who have voted without even checking the other projects.
I hope the Tron team, judges and community members donât just focus on trendy projects because of fake shilling and buzz but rather identify true gems of this hackathon that can take Tron to places if funded well and supported.
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If we want #Tronstrong we need strong projects with strong communities to support that vision. Turu, JM and other projects have built on Tron since a long time ago, they have also created a community, I think itâs right that they come out on top of the leaderboards.
You have an idea, you build, you struggle, you have some success, you gain some traction, you get some followers, you build a community then you win an hackathon. It cannot happen in reverse.
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Completely disagree @Sirluke . Hackathons are for new innovations. Existing ones with any sort of traction can sustain themselves.
you build a community then you win an hackathon
It doesnât work like that. Thousands of hackathons happening worldwide. Hardly any winners there have huge shilling communities. Also projects like the one you have mentioned have clear footprints of shilling on this forum to keep their project in the top rankings by creating lots of posts under different titles and categories. If this is how communities are required to support a hackathon project, then no need for hackathons in the world.
Tron could attract the best developers in the Web3 ecosystem by supporting them irrespective of whether they have the support of shilling communities or not.
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The point is that the top projects on the leaderboard are also those who have proved to be working harder to innovate. We are not talking about smoke and mirrors, or promises. The projects with the biggest communities are also those who work harder to develop. We should also consider that the public voting part of the hackathon is the minor part of the prizes. Judges and expert will evaluate all 202 projects and award any project that deserves it, regardless of the size of the community.
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@Sirluke Most projects have worked harder and itâs visible. It doesnât matter if they are in the top of leaderboard or the bottom. Voting makes more sense when done in a way to avoid any kind of shilling which has happened in this hackathon. You seem to have missed that point.
Brilliant point by @Rustiqgo where he attached a screenshot of telegram based shilling.
If projects asks their community to blindly vote for them instead of asking the community to check out all projects and then vote, then itâs pure shilling and completely destroys the point of voting. And if such projects gain traction and win because of shilling, then it kills the purpose of the hackathon and loses the trust of Web3 devs and buidlers.
Just like you, I too hope the judges and tron team evaluate irrespective of voting/shilling.
Edit: Just witnessed on Telegram how some top projects are shilling their project. Gave me very bad vibes about that community where the voters happily agreed to shill the project without even checking out other projects.
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Some great projects on the way. Check out
Picardy Protocol. Independent artists and creators 
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If shilling is allowed like how most of the top projects in the leaderboard are doing, I can help some brand new projects without any communities with shilling by financially incentivizing my unrelated community to vote for them without even reviewing other projects. This will make it fair for new projects.
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The key for me was to browse the Tron Dao Forum beyond the Hackathon. Check out different posts and participate in discussion.
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Think your mixing shilling, and projects encouraging their community to vote for themselves.
The âtop projectsâ as you put it are not paying people to vote. Projects like JM, tronninjas, turu, have earned alot of trust from the tron community which is why people vote for them.
Look at nft for example, alot of projects leading in there are all in the same communities, and support each other. Which has pushed them all up i believe
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Thatâs what is called Shilling and defeats the purpose of voting in my view. Every vote that happens without the voter reviewing other projects would be of no use other than shilling. This hackathon is valuable with fair voting instead of blind votes. The way some top projects are shilling reminds me of how politicians in third world country earn votes. It doesnât matter if people are paid or not, the problem is blind votes.
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Look at other gem projects. Pure without shilling. How are you planning to encourage those projects and developers? They donât go around asking for blind votes, right? But they deserve to be equally encouraged for their hardwork.
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One of my favorite things with Tron is that the communities work together instead of agains each other to grow. Most community members vote for several project and everyone can vote for 5 projects in each category. Actively engaging communities to participate in the forum voting is important and also wanted by the TronDAO and thatâs why they have the $5,000 prize for active community members.
What i see in the communities I am a part of is a high level of tolerance in discussing other projects in groups. I donât think most members here votes blindly as they have been on the forum for months and also actively discussing projects. Most communities have also actively encouraged their members to spend time on the forum reading all the posts submitted to earn the trust level needed to vote.
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And also what you see here on the forum voting is the Tron community
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Thank you for your view point. I agree about being able to vote for 5 projects in each category. But you seem to be ignoring/missing my point about shilling. Have also seen other community members share screenshots proving how blind votes are helping some projects climb up the leaderboard. I have personally checked telegram and witnessed it and would suggest you to check the same.
And any comments about how some projects have created multiple posts with different titles and posted projects in different categories with some negligible tweaks for more buzz and shilling?
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So you are calling the blind voters coming from telegram groups barely doing enough to gain trust level to vote on their shilled project and leave, âTron Communityâ?
Itâs funny how some members start being defensive to protect shilled projects instead of coming forward to support new pure and non-shilled innovations.
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By that logic, no one can vote for a project they support?
Dont know where you get this leave tron as well from?
Also, saying these projects have been around a while seems innacurate, as most are just hitting 1 year old? Thats still very new and young for a project
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@JLod Well in that case if I was winner in first hackathon, I can keep winning the rest of the seasons because of being fat and rich. Thereâs a thin line between âSupportersâ and âBlind votersâ. Whatever we call it, it just ruins the purpose of voting and discourages new innovations and projects lacking financial backing / shilling communities.
Also itâs interesting how some community members just start being defensive of shilling here instead of putting any plans of how to support non-shilled projects and encourage them for their projects and helping Tron grow?
@Stian Any votes made directly to a project without checking other projects are blind votes. At least I hope everyone agrees that such votes do not help contribute to the fairness of understanding best projects. After this, telegram groups are the evidences of how the voting leaderboard here is not fair.
Also, I see no posts either from the shilling members or members supporting the blind votes that shows any plans of supporting projects not capable of acquiring blind votes. Can you help put out pointers on how Tron community can start helping them to create a fair voting leaderboard?
Iâm unable to post any more posts as Iâm being rate limited. Will respond to further comments/replies when the forum allows me.
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