Bro I get what you’re saying and I’m not insinuating exclusion…I’ve been looking at this pretty zoomed out. Consider this as constructive community building or collaborative inclusion.
I’m suggesting a more collaborative approach for inclusion and onboarding of new commers so we can all have fairer community voting on all projects, fewer tribalism and great mashups with us working together and being rewarded for it…
Don’t go trying to win on your own again but actually buidl/work together with someone else to win with them. A Guardian model. Simple. Don’t you think the impact of this suggestion could be greater for everyone than the current system?
In fact if it makes sense, this could be added to current system in the next season without changing current rules. And see how projects grow after a while… a good way to measure an actual community
If you have researched about the past winners and sTRONgerTogether, you should know that all the past winners are collaborating with other projects no matter if they are former winners as well, new projects or else. We don’t need a prize for collabs imo.
Also, a project can not present the exact same product twice. It’s already in the rules.
if a former winner keep getting votes from his community, it is probably cause they are doing a good job. Otherwise, holders would have left already.
Instead of advising Trondao to create more categories, which would require more prizes (where will the funds come from?), I would advise to reduce the current prizes from the community vote a little bit and add a part of the reward as free energy for the project.
Real builders and especially new projects could benefit from a certain amount of free energy for one year. While fake projects, quitters wouldn’t. This combined to other additional rules I’ve mentioned earlier (contracts deployed on mainnet before voting, 3 months before payment with check if the project is still alive and building), would definitely keep the cash grabbers away imo.
wild riff off your thoughts…
What if all the prizes for the forum were to be free energy for a year? and so there could be more winners this way to support more legit projects with e+b - can be a TronDAO partnership with the other energy providers out there… some even were in earlier hackathons…
or like sponsored energy prizes…
Throwing out options for all to see an think about, discuss etc
When I saw the submissions for the hackathon before the vote started, I held the view that the old projects participating again was a huge problem because there were a TON of low effort submissions from them. Luckily, the judges actually did a great job of removing the recycled and low effort projects and of the returning teams remaining (tronhub, dcloud, ustx, turu) I think all deserved it
I can also see the point of this. If we think about it, you don’t see e.g uniswap and makerdao winning prices in ethereum hackathons. But it’s okay for this hackathon to be different of course, just saying that I understand both sides.
Well, Uniswap alone has a market cap as big as TRX, so I don’t think they need seed money and marketing support. I can assure you that if USTX grows to 1/100 the size on Uniswap, we’ll refrain from participating to hackathons
If you look at the previous winners and every products they’ve developed the past year you could think they are rich teams with big mcap tokens,… but the reality will surprise you community projects on Tron aren’t backed by VC’s (except maybe one or two). They are built with passion, not millions of dollars. The revenue generated isn’t big, especially during bear markets, and partially/totally redistributed to the community.
For instance JustMoney uses the revenue for the buyback and burn of the token, Tronninjas gives a part of the energy platform back to nft/token stakers, Turu to voters and holders,…
What we can get during a hackathon mainly goes to servers, softwares, liquidity,… every expenses that have to be covered to keep the projects running and keep building new products that we hope will have a positive impact on Tron’s ecosystem and bring over new users.
Hola, a mi parecer todos los proyectos deben tener cabida, se hayan presentado anteriormente o sean nuevos, los anteriores han desarrollado grandes avances, no es lógico dejarlos de lado, y los nuevos que se presenten deberán añadir valor a su trabajo, incluso diría que es muy favorable que proyectos de la altura de Turu verse sigan presentando innovación es una manera de que los trabajos nuevos estén a un nivel más alto.
Really interesting insights, got me thinking how to develop a mechanism for Paylock to give back to the community following the ethos of blockchain based products.
Big community projects might even collaborate to organise a small community driven hackathon if we had Uniswap level of income ^^
I know where we could host it already
In my opinion, previous winners should apply for grants instead of competing in hackathons. It is disadvantageous for newer projects.
Having said that, I am very pleased with how the hackathon organizers have taken steps to disqualify projects that haven’t made considerable progress since the previous submission.
community projects on Tron aren’t backed by VC’s (except maybe one or two). They are built with passion, not millions of dollars. The revenue generated isn’t big, especially during bear markets, and partially/totally redistributed to the community.
