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Good point, we from ForGreen are working at the moment to make ForGreen ready for mobile, so we where busy. We are answering all questions now, to use the feedback and make things clear😊
One remark: some questions are not in English, so we have to use a translator. It will be nice if all communication is English
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El encanto de la comunidad es el poder expresarse en otro idioma que no es el inglés, utilizar un traductor no cuesta tiempo, sino ganas @Steve20
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Sounds a good reason 
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Weave financial caught my attention as well. And even more as they were transparent early enough about the fact that the smart contracts couldn’t be ready on time for the verification process.
About the new tracks (a builder for former winners and a builder for former “non-winners”) I think it wouldn’t be a good idea.
The builder track isn’t a track for projects that just keep adding some “make up” on a pre-existing product. It’s a track for projects that are presenting a new tool, product, feature based on a pre-existing product and that is significant enough to be presented as a product by itself.
Let’s take some example:
- JustMoney Spot is built on top of JustMoney Swap. It’s a limit order environment that can be presented as a third-party solution and that could be adapted on any Tron based swap. What judges should be judging here is the spot trading platform only. Not the swap it’s based on.
- Elk Finance is building a farming solution on top of their DEX. Judges should judge the farming solution. Not the DEX.
- DebasWulfpack is presenting a new e-book. The content of the e-book is what should be judged. Not the e-book structure.
Why? Because the JM swap, Elk DEX, Deba’s e-book technical aspects all have been presented before. It was all built last year. It shouldn’t be taken in consideration.
So based on that, all the projects, no matter if they have won before or not, have the same chance to win the builder prize before the hackathon starts. What will make the difference is what has been built during the hackathon.
That’s my point of view. It would make zero sense to me to evaluate the whole project from start since not everything has been built during the hackathon’s period.
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Yes definitely
The project presented by @JavierGarza deserve a spot up there, personally they were one if not the most active project on the Web3 track and they really need a chance to win the community prize
Payment gateway (PayTron) by @G.Veyron showed true community service, listening to what the community had to say and going ahead to make good changes just because of the community.
He/she really deserves a spot up there
Lastly Hatch egg game
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Really appreciate your views here and thanks for the kind words!
Unfortunately we just applied a little too late and can not adhere to the deadlines unfortunately. 
If we can we will definitely apply for season 5 as we can then make the deadlines!
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Best wishes to you … surely the future is bright 
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Thanks @TronLive for giving us some food for thoughts. Here’s my take:
Q1: Eco track
The ECO track is a failure IMHO and should be removed for the next rounds. It seems to me that the running projects are using blockchain to solve problems that could be solved with other means. Maybe a more general track about “everyday life” use of blockchain could be proposed, that could cover ecology, energy, IoT and other possible applications.
Q2: the platform
I would pick one that allows transparency. Since S2 many users asked to have visibility on the judges scoring and the answer has always been: the hosting platform does not share that info. The organizers should demand that.
Q3 offline hackathon
I would do it in the EU.
Q4 community engagement
This forum comes to (limited) life only during the hackathon period, this is the problem. And a lot of the interaction is very low value messages posted just to reach TL1 or appear as active users hoping to get one of the community contributor prizes. We need to monitor and post in so many different groups (TG, Reddit, TW, forums) that it’s very hard to do it continuously and with good quality content.
Q5: builder track
The builder track is attracting the most interest and it’s understandable, since the projects running there are established and are those who keep developing, so it should remain. Maybe it could have higher prizes, since the projects have a proven track record and are those who generate the most community interaction across different channels. I would also suggest 5 votes for the builder track.
Q6: excluded projects
I think Weave financial has a great potential and shows innovation. I hope they’ll run in S5 and I’m sure they’ll rank very high.
Q7: interesting projects
The builder track has several: JM Spot, Turuverse, NRG, Deba’s Wulf. TNFTmaker in NFT and Revolutron in GameFi are also interesting.
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Lets ask ourselves, we have over 6000 registered members on the platform, how many of them spend time on the forum to bring out their opinions. I have told alot of people i know who are on the forum to be active and share their views and opinions. And they always say “its too tedious”
Just only the forum, they are saying it’s tedious, now you want to suggest TG,TW, Reddit etc. this will only achieve one thing. (DRIVE THE FEW ACTIVE MEMBERS AWAY). This is not a one day affair but 6 months, so if someone is even able to be online daily for this six months he or she should be commended.
We all know some views here are sometimes weak and not necessary but the alarm has been sounded several times for people to be active but it seems it is always falling on deaf ears.
To recommend other social media platforms will not solve this problem, the @admin.hackathon can monitor this forum and check the comments are are valuable and those that are not.
I remember suggesting a telegram forum for projects of this year hackathon, if my memory serves me right you were against it but now you want us to move there to serve what purpose. This is a pure contradiction in my honest opinion.
its a wonderful point you have made here but which project is solving a problem using blockchain that can never be solved through other means. All projects can be solved through other means without necessarily involving blockchain, but these eco friendly guys are looking for a more decentralized approach, a more transparent approach, top security and immutable approach.
Lets allow them to explore their option. If not then web3 should be eliminated cos web2 is bigger and has more reach, then defi should also be canceled cos traditional finance has better and upper grounds.
For the weave financial and builder track, i agree with you on this 100%
Please this is also my honest opinion and in no means meant to undermine your great intellectual opinion. You are my Marechal just like @fabsltsa.
But i humbly beg to differ in that two points raised. Thank you 
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I’m sorry I did not make myself clear about the reasons why the community engagement is weak on the forum. When I say that “we need to monitor and post on TG, Reddit, Twitter”, I don’t mean that we need to start doing it, but that the majority of users already do that and the forum participation adds on to that. Every project has TW and TG where members are most active. Monitoring an additional social channel like the forum can be seen as too much.
Regarding the ECO track, I don’t agree with your comparison with web3 and DeFi. Web3 has more features than web2. DeFi is another league compared to traditional finance, there is no equal outside the crypto world. The projects in ECO track mostly marketplaces (for energy, carbon credits, plastics, etc…) adapted to ecology, but in the end they are just marketplaces. I don’t see much innovation in there, that’s all.
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Opinion are like noses but hmmm…
Personally I don’t see the eco friendly as a failure.
We are trying to solve all problems or do everything we do in our daily life through blockchain. As my @Nana66419 said everything can be done in life without blockchain. We are including blockchain for transparency and decentralization, even with that we still see things we hate to see.
The adoption we are looking for will increase when we are able to bring all these to blockchain, because we do these in our daily lives
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In my own view I totally disagree with you.
As @Nana66419 mentioned what good is web3 without decentralization? If so the whole web3 space should be scraped off.
There are a lot of promising projects trying to bring about the best level of decentralization and transparency to our daily lives.
Let me mention some good projects and am open to correction.
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Carbonex:
This project is involved in selling of carbon credit to energy generating companies using web3 approach what makes it very significant is
- It reduces the cost and time for transactions.
- It provides a more secure and transparent way of selling carbon credits compared to the normal web2 approach you can correct me if am wrong. -
TronPower:
This project is involved in selling of electricity, even if we don’t agree I’d tell you most African countries are moving to a more decentralize nature of trading electricity they also proposed a smart meter which I did my research it looks feasible and haven’t been done anywhere so far as my research goes.
- It reduced cost and time of transactions
- Global visibility allowing people to trade energy from anywhere without being in the country physically.
- Secure and transparent way also encouraging the use of renewable energy and bringing investment to the Tron blockchain (imagine how many users and how much liquidity will be added if a country makes use of a decentralized energy trading platform) -
BlockForest:
A platform that still helps the trading of carbon credit, this also has the same advantages as the above mentioned.
This so far are the projects I have researched still researching more in the eco friendly track.
We need to note how much money alone this energy trading companies bring in annually example in the USA 2020 with energy trading companies generating a total of 400 billion dollars. That is similar to Bitcoin market cap.
Personally I feel if all this projects that deal with electricity, carbon credits, energy generation is somehow able to complete what they promised gain the attention of the world it’s a massive win for the web3 space in general not just Tron.
About the engagement it’s my first time being here during the hackathon so am yet to experience the after the hackathon effect but am pretty sure if there’s nothing to keep the community engage there won’t be much activity.
Please am open to corrections and this is no way trying to undermine your intelligence.
Thank you
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A proposed smart meter that connects to the blockchain is not innovative enough?
@TronPower kindly explain more
A platform that tracks carbon credits transactions too
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Let’s not also forget the point that they are all promoting the adoption of renewable energies.
Recently I got to find out that Germany shut down their nuclear reactors due to the environmental consequences.
Web3 or Web2
What will be a world overwhelmed with spontaneous forest fires, melting ice caps all caused by global warming which in turn is caused by rising carbon emissions. All this recently faced by Australia.
We should be helping submissions in eco friendly by encouraging them not discrediting their work thank you.
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@Sirluke todas las pistas que se han presentado en este hackathon, son útiles, tal vez algunos usuarios encuentren unas más interesantes que otras, pero en definitiva no todos somo iguales y debe existir variedad. (es una de las particularidades del foro)
Coincido que en la pista de constructores debería haber 5 premios, ya que se presentan proyectos que constantemente se están expandiendo presentando novedades y usos a los usuarios y comunidad.
Como dije en su momento ingresaría una nueva pista que nadie repara en ella y es cada día más importante, la pista de inclusividad, dónde se aporta usos a personas socialmente excluidas por motivos de salud, financieros, localización, etc.
Concuerdo con @Prince-Onscolo todos estos temas, todos recalco se pueden tratar sin recurrir a la blockchain, pero lo que se pretende es que no estén en manos de unos pocos, que manejen a su antojo. Se está creando un paso a la Web3 para que todo el mundo tenga poder de decisión y actuación, sin necesidad de un tercero.
TEMA FORO:
Sabemos que el foro siempre esta concurrido por los mismos, pero alguien debe estar para hacerlo atractivo y engrandecerlo.
Forma parte del equipo de Tron, escuchar a los miembros sus propuestas y hacer un foro activo.
Cómo dije después del hackathon haré unas propuestas, las cuales si son escuchadas, puede hacer que cambie completamente y se una mucha gente.
TELEGRAM
Hace algún tiempo abrí un TEMA, dedicado a a brir un canal de Telegram, casí todos estaban de acuerdo e incluso se dijo de adoptar varios idiomas.
Como ha remarcado @Nana66419 tu fuiste el único que no estuviste de acuerdo, trasladar el foro a redes sociales no me parece factible, lo que me parece adecuado es apoyarlo.
Por ejemplo yo me dedico a crear vídeos en You tube sobre la comunidad de Tron, sus proyectos y el ecosistema de Tron y BTTC, y a parte de los más allegados y gente que quiere aprender y saber sobre este tema, nadie se ha molestado en visitarlos, en cambio criticamos la quietud en la que muchos se encuentran, queriendo recibir sin hacer nada.
No estoy en contra de tus opiniones, sólo te pido que hagas un poco de reflexión a lo que has escrito, y al igual que te apoyamos tu apoyes al resto.
Esta nota también va dirigida a @admin.hackathon , @TronLive , @StevenTRON.
Me gustaría que dieran su opinión, Steven siempre da una respuesta, lamentablemente las otras dos entidades no suelen responder, les animo a ser un poco más cercanos con los miembros del foro. Gracias
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I would not take Germany as an example, since they still have coal powered plants…
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I’m not trying to say they have eliminated all sources that affect the ecosystem. I’m just saying they have made efforts cutting of a nuclear reactor that brings in an average of 3.5 billion dollars a year
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IMHO, it’s not. It’s nice on paper but non feasible. They propose a blockchain based architecture, safe, secure and transparent, but in the end you have a simple device that connects or disconnets your energy source. How tamper-proof is that? It looks like OpenATM on S3, they won 1st place ($60k) and they don’t even have a working website now.
We need projects that can work in real life, not just gimmicks.
That’s just my opinion for the sake of open discussion, I respect all others.
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I love that you stated this, if I may ask do they not fulfill this requirements?
Do you agree that blockchain is tamper proof? If you do then you should also know that connecting a smart meter to the blockchain it will inherit the tamper proof nature of the blockchain.
A smart meter that connects to the blockchain to manage electricity trading is very feasible in real life.
I have researched on the components highlighted in their submissions and I don’t see why it’s not feasible with the help of resources and support from the higher ups.
You should do more research on this projects and their utility.
Thank you
Just my own view and I stand to be corrected
I would love @TronPower @im_31 to explain more
I’d have agreed partially with you if the above mentioned projects did not exist.