Some are reading but not comment , most people have cultivated that nature of reading without comments, it’s everywhere
Making it clear in my own view it’s similar to countries voting while because when projects are submitting for hackathons they are also voicing their manifestos, what they are capable of achieving and all that, it’s all campaign,… most people don’t attend campaigns and are unable to listen to debates because it might not be at their own convenient time but they will still make their own research and vote for thier favorite candidates contestants , so no need of depriving them their voting right.
Sometimes people lack information about hackathon, some persons might come online once in a week, so in some cases some might even see the information very late, he/she will be shocked in seeing that the hackathon is ending in 3 days time he/she will rushed to forum and read submissions half baked and get some little ideas before voting,…we are not in the military era let’s give power to the people, except bots… Still my humble opinion
Simply because if this is announced publicly months before the next vote it then becomes useless. Most solutions are only temporary, but at least this can buy time before a more solid solution.
Edit: it is anyways not doable so no need to go further with that.
Thank you for bringing this up for discussion because as a first timer in the hackathon, I have wondered this esp the No. 9 question because during the hackathon review stage, I can’t count up to 15 members that are actively engaging in the forum but immediately it gets to voting stage, I saw over 200 people voting even before those active members that reviewed projects voted and this made me question the criteria this over 200 inactive members considered in a project before voting for them.
My opinion in the above questions are;
Let more measures be applied for users participating in the community voting. I keep seeing user’s stats yet I have not seen any purpose for it. Let the team use user’s activities stats as a measure to qualify users for voting. Because if a user can’t participate in studying a project and making a review on those projects, what exactly will they be voting for?
I have said something on this before which can be found in the quoted comment below. Let post submission be done once to save the community the stress of reading a particular project post countlessly because the team keep updating their post in batches. Anybody that want to participate in a hackathon and can’t come up with making a post of their project’s goal, value, purpose, and details is not ready to join the hackathon because for you to decide to join a hackathon, you first have to develop a clear vision of the problem you are trying to solve which is what is needed in the project value, goal, purpose and details of every forum post.
More details in solving this:
I found out that there is a lot of time wastage in the hackathon period. Example, why wasting a whole 2 weeks after hackathon deadline before voting commence, and another 2 weeks after voting before announcing the winners? If the team should manage this time wastage very well, we can have something like a deadline for project (post) submission and a deadline for review and project team engagement with the community which should not exceed 2 or 3 weeks. Any project that fail to demonstrate enough engagement with the community will not make it to the voting stage.
By extra funding, do you mean offering them more funds than their hackathon winning prize. And is this benefit limited to only hackathon vote winners or is it extended to bonus winners who didn’t make it to the voting stage but showed a lot of dedication in deploying their project to main net?
The propose twitter space is good and I will be interested in attending it.
One of the reasons I joined the Tron community was because of the cheapest transaction rate but today, a lot of projects has taken the lead ahead of Tron in transaction cost and small investors like me can’t afford to stake a huge amount of trx to get free energy for our daily transactions. The complexity in the energy mechanism make it common for 3 out of 5 Tron users to be burning trx in performing a transaction in the network. The team should provide more educational resources for the users on energy. They should collaborate with Tronlink and other Tron related wallets to have an awareness campaign in form of making a banner with short description on the benefit of renting energy to perform transactions and the related cost benefit.
I don’t mean any disrespect sir but I notice you keep responding to this discussion through private message to the team. This is meant to be a public sharing of opinions. If everyone should start sending DMs to the team, I wonder how we are going to learn from each other on this topic. It will be best for every opinion to be express here. @TronLive What do you think?
Thanks for raising your voice my friend. But 2 things:
there is nothing interesting you’ll learn from my DM with the team, you’ll find way more important knowledges in the 90% of the forum messages that you haven’t read yet keep grinding!
I was not sharing an opinion in DM but some ideas on a particular topic that, I believe, I have the right to keep private if I want to, without being called out (with respect of course).
I’ll also address here @sirluke’s concern, that suggesting an idea with the organisation in dm would give me (or at least let people think that it would give me) an advantage of some sort and therefore would like me to share publicly this idea. First of all, my pride is hurt to know that people could think this of me, nevertheless I guess it’s a legit concern … BUT this concern is valid if and only if I’m the only one to share ideas with the team and that the team decides to follow my idea. So I would suggest everyone here to go in dm with a forum admin and share an idea to improve the community vote checking. That way the team will be able to brainstorm with their own ideas and with the community members ideas, and potentially come up with an original solution nobody else than them would guess.
Could even come up with several solutions, one per season. I wouldn’t mind to have some tasks to do each seasons to be able to vote.
I’ll will end here by paraphrasing Obama: lot of people can come up with problems, what we need are people bringing solutions.
So let’s all be a part of the solution and share ideas with the team
Could be. I am just giving an example it can be 100 trx even. Another way to verify real voters can be to link social media account like X(aka twitter) to our tron forum profiles.
Linking social account to forum identity would keep some people out or force them to do something they don’t want. For example with your proposal I could not vote since I don’t have a personal X account.
We can definitely discuss here the direction we want to take (which was the initial question asked by @TronLive): on my side, keeping the community vote for the community, people who use the chain. I want dapps I use to win so they’ll provide an even better service in the future thanks not only to the prize but also the recognition they get from the community.
I’m not sure we have to discuss publicly the technical options the team has to make this vote a community vote. Otherwise should we discuss publicly the technical ways trondao team is using to remove the votes that are considered as fraud? It has been said publicly the team is checking, among other things, IP’s. Now fraudsters use VPN to pass that checkpoint. Should we keep going giving them the info to bypass the rules?
Anyways I’m just a community member among others. I don’t take any decision so it’s a bit useless to discuss this further I invite again all the community members willing to bring solutions to contact the admins and provide them with your genius ideas
In the end the trondao team is not sharing with any community member how the are really checking on the fake votes. Everybody is welcome to share their opinions publicly or privately. I am just trying to say to you is do not comment that you will be privately contacting the team. It creates a lot of doubts among other members. We know you do what you do for the best of tron.
Thank you so much, this topic should be for community. Teams may comment in favour of their projects. Some how conflict of interest. Use the stat, at least check the individuals logins during the hackatron. Surprise people are defending those who do not assess any project and still vote.
Let’s be fair and encourage individuals to engage. They don’t have time to check submissions but they have time to vote? If so then @TronLive find a way to encourage more people to engage. Like @Youngyuppie invest in the community maybe with that they will have time here. An active community will stay online a whole year to support this forum and hackatrons and the prize he or she can earn is $500 per season. Maybe it does not motivate them hahaha because from what others are saying, creating a project and getting people to vote for me whether active or not can earn me $7k or $5k
As far as they are not considered bot or multiple accounts, then they should allow to vote. Or is it possible to increase the voting conditions. Something that will make most active